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Turning garbage into sugar for fuel

Technology Review -- Waste Management signs a deal with Renmatix to explore making fuel and high-value chemicals from urban waste.

For advanced biofuel companies, there are often questions over how much biomass is available to make biofuels and chemicals. But garbage is often in plentiful supply.

Municipal waste hauler Waste Management yesterday announced a deal to explore making chemicals and fuels from trash with Renmatix, a startup which has a low-cost process for converting biomass into sugars.


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Submitted Aug 25, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 5:00:27 AM

Mac: then maybe we need to cut the $6 Billion in subsidies to Pig Oil first. After all Pig Oil reaps massive, often near record, profit margins.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 10:53:47 PM

If there are NO taxpayer subsidies payed or allowed to Waste Management or its partner in this endeavor other than the tax deductions allowed to each and every taxpayer, then we have no objection to this enterprise. Indeed, this enterprise would seem to be an idea that certainly needs exploring if the exploring is done by private enterprise.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 8:26:40 AM

"Back To The Future" Car
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:54:40 PM

Hmmm...
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:52:24 PM

Sounds gr8..:)
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:42:53 PM

This is a great idea. We already burn waste in our area to create electricity. Now a new recycling program is beginning and this will remove much of the waste, IF - people use it weekly. 12000-13000 homes to be covered, plus businesses and multiple housing.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:32:46 PM

Back in the early 80s there were some who advocated exploring the use of industrial hemp as biomass to make ethanol, but it "couldn't be done" due to the problem of how to remove the cellulose. Seems these folks have solved that technical hurtle.
Renewable, carbon absorbing hemp would be an ideal energy source. 1. Annually renewable 2. Higher yield per acre than trees or corn 3. Not a food crop, so won't destabilize food prices 4. Carbon neutral (absorbs carbon during growth and releases it when burned) 5. Grows well in poor soil (doesn't require petrochemical fertilizers or herbicides to out compete weeds).
** Oh, and Waste Management was not controlled by organized crime, they fought against organized crime to gain market share in places like New York.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:19:22 PM

Forget it! They will want to get subsidized by the taxpayer for it and we may never get CNG.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:18:27 PM

i don't want any of that in my coffee !!!!!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:16:44 PM

Sounds like a smelly proposition to me.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:06:21 PM

Why sugar as an intermediate process? Seems like an extra unnecessary step.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:04:29 PM

Organic waste is a good source for energy. Git 'er Done!
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:03:44 PM

Hope it works out.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:03:35 PM

thanks for the post
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 11:02:42 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:57:11 PM

What about the water pollution that will result?
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:56:54 PM

Now that's a very interesting concept.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:56:40 PM

This is better than using corn. Corn is for food and good drinks
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:55:07 PM

Looks like WM has come a long way from being a company controlled by organized crime and Wayne Huizenga - or has it? (Ask someone from NJ.)

[Edited by: MacDad614 at 8/25/2012 11:58:21 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:54:32 PM

Beats ethonial!
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:54:21 PM

Sugar is more efficient than corn!!!
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:53:28 PM

great idea

we could start by scraping the crud out of the US Capitol Building
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:50:31 PM

Hopefully it is a cost-effective for two problems that the U.S. has.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:50:13 PM

Sugar for fuel would be an excellent idea! Perhaps that way it won't go into all of our food!
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:50:12 PM

Do you really think so???????????????????????????
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:49:59 PM

good idea
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:49:22 PM

Hmmm...interesting concept.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:47:46 PM

some familiarity...already turning sewer water into purified water for drinking
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:47:38 PM

As long as it isn't sugar for food
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:47:22 PM

Sounds very interesting. Why waste?
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:46:22 PM

interesting....
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:46:02 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:44:43 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:44:18 PM

I have a better idea. Let's turn garbage into fertilizer to grow more food so that we don't starve the world while we're sticking 40% of our corn crop in our gas tanks.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:41:08 PM

Sounds like a sweet deal.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:37:35 PM

food is not fuel. but garbage can be
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:35:35 PM


The US is an extremely wasteful country so there is an abundance of garbage. Better to extract something useful from it before burying it, burning it, or any of the other wasteful things we do with it now. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle — produce less garbage!
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:34:43 PM

Use it to generate electricty, not sugar.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:34:29 PM

yum yumm
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k
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:30:59 PM

Go for the dump
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:30:38 PM

If it ends up doing some good do it.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:27:21 PM

Star Trek
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:25:04 PM

Hey if it works,go for it
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:24:55 PM

The good news is if you turn garbabe into sugar for fuel, the sugar can't rot your teeth.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:22:09 PM

It would be great to turn our garbage into a energy resource.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:21:25 PM

good ideal if the by-product doesn't add to the pollution
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:20:57 PM

It would be great to turn our garbage into a energy resource.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:19:41 PM

Hope it works. I know some garbage in Washington, DC they could start with.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2012 10:17:50 PM

Have to count the cost 1st! Remember? We don't have any money. These are projects for when we get our economy under control.
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