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High court asked to throw out oil refinery permit

AP Opponents of a proposed $10BB oil refinery asked the state Supremes to strike down the permit--- -- Hyperion's proposed refinery north of Elk Point would process 400,000 barrels of Canadian tar sands crude oil each day into low-sulfur gasoline, diesel, jet fuel and liquid petroleum gas. It would be the first U.S. oil refinery built since 1976.

The project would include a power plant that produces electricity for the refinery. It would convert a byproduct of the refinery process — solid petroleum coke — into gas that would be burned to produce electricity.

Dallas-based Hyperion contends that the refinery would be a clean, modern plant that would use the most advanced, commercially feasible emission control technology.

The Sierra Club and two local groups, Save Union County and Citizens Opposed to Oil Pollution, argue the refinery could e


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 11:02:11 PM

if the refinery would be well maintained after being built, that would make it worth it, but sadly, the motto "build it, use it, don't worry about anything else" seems to apply to most refineries.
heydano67
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:07:30 PM

Can't we improve safety and capacity on the refineries already around?
drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 8:31:05 PM

LOL, where ya' been letemeatthecake???

We have been refining and burning gasoline refined from tar sands oil for years and years.
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 1:56:17 PM

On Oct 5, 2012 3:05:58 AM, Bill100 wrote:

>Revoke the Sierra Club's charter.

On what grounds? This is a free country where you can say nearly anything.
LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 10:13:43 PM


Why are we attempting to refine Canadian Tar? Let the Canadians further spoil their own country.
nauzad
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 5:51:02 PM

hmm..
nb52
Champion Author Grand Rapids

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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 5:25:01 AM

Sierra Club and it's "clones" are idiots.
MrPony
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 5:15:48 AM

Tough greenies...the American people MUST win!
Bill100
Champion Author Grand Rapids

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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 3:05:58 AM

Revoke the Sierra Club's charter.
MAC48
Champion Author Dallas

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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 12:30:19 AM

If the Sierra Club as we know it today is opposing the construction of this new refinery, then it should obviously be built.
rahcat
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 11:08:26 PM

Kinda tird of Greenies and tree huggers.
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 11:07:46 PM

We need more refineries.
jem069
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 11:00:45 PM

ok
WIPACKERFAN
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:58:12 PM

OK
LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:57:11 PM


Aviator Bob...LOL Your comments at 10:52. Best response I have ever heard! Thanks!
mrbee
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:56:36 PM

Sierra club. Bad for the US.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:55:39 PM

Okay, @wayoung56. No more Sierra Club but you have to outlaw the Tea Party, first.

Deal?
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:52:59 PM

Okay, @SandeeC. You have a deal. The Sierra Club has to pay higher gas prices but only they get clean air and water.

The rest of you have to settle for whatever Big Oil deems "acceptable".
frostyWV
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:51:22 PM

damn tree huggers.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:50:57 PM

That's because Big Oil has a much harder time bribing judges than they do bankrolling legislators' election campaigns, @PizzaMon.
clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:50:46 PM

So the SCOTUS is now in the permitting business?

Sierra Club - enough said.

Green is red.
SandeeC
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:49:49 PM

There should be some way to make people like Sierra Club members pay the highest prices in gas and the rest of the country pay much lower! Or find some way to kill THEIR economy.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:49:17 PM

Don't be so sure about the Midwest being huge farmland anymore, @jcurley. That drought hasn't gone away yet. Farmers are having a real bad time trying to bring what few crops they grew this season to market.

Expect the price of meat to go up. Feed prices have gone through the roof.
PizzaMon
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:48:46 PM

Environmentalists always seem to win in court.
carloco75
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:47:54 PM

MmmHmm...
Thomtec
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:46:48 PM

Ok
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:46:13 PM

Sure, @30mpg80, the Sierra Club's the problem. Big Oil's hands are as clean as Ivory Snow, huh? The Sierra Club wouldn't be around if Big Oil hadn't screwed up the air, land, and water in the first place. Tell them to clean up their act and the Sierra Club won't have any members.
E-Squirrel
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:43:58 PM

Of course, these are the same people who complain and blame others, particularly the oil industry for shortages of fuel when they go to the filling station.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:43:25 PM

Glad to hear you're offereing your backyard for a refinery, @bonzoonfmb.

Send Big Oil your address. They'll send a survey team in the morning.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:41:57 PM

Just understand that oil independence does not mean cheap gas, @zantor. Tar sands are expensive. Shale oil is expensive. Deepwater drilling is expensive. Those are the options in front of us.

We already sucked the cheap oil out of the ground 40 years ago.
SavALot
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:40:32 PM

Thrown out on a technicality
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:39:41 PM

So tell me, @tidalwave3. You for offshore oil drilling in Tallahassee? I hear it'll do wonders for Florida tourism.
mrselfdestruct
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:39:26 PM

Nuts.
Gas4Gore
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:38:44 PM

Do not listen.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:37:53 PM

Amazing. Record amounts of shale oil being produced in the Dakotas and they want to build a refinery that will process Canadian Tar Sand crude??? How does this make sense?

Build a refinery that can handle the shale oil, not that Canadian crap.
abcdMA
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:34:55 PM

we need some additioal refining capacity
HEBster
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:32:45 PM

Ya think!
hammer219115
Veteran Author Pennsylvania

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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:30:15 PM

WOW!
Toppers
Champion Author Atlanta

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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:29:37 PM

Not good
papa56NC
All-Star Author North Carolina

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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:27:32 PM

Better luck next time.
tidalwave3
Champion Author Tallahassee

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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:26:46 PM

Let the Sierra Club ride their bicycles to the hearing.... Yea like that would happen, like Gore does :(
zantor
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:26:21 PM

we need oil independence
VanIsleLes
All-Star Author British Columbia

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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:26:19 PM

This is just frustrating to read all this bad news
5Golfer8
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:26:19 PM

Just build it already.
OGW
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:23:49 PM

Did GM promise them each a Volt for free if they stopped the refinery?
bonzoonfmb
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:21:50 PM

More refineries need to be built everywhere and anywhere.
MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:21:42 PM

What would the environmental impact be? The Sierra Club didn't say.
firefly09
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:20:55 PM

To bad.
pgerassi
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:19:46 PM

SOP for environmentalists, no matter how clean it is compared to other alternatives, it isn't clean enough.
bvrbill
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:19:15 PM

Build it.
tspaldi
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:17:20 PM

The USA needs more refineries... not just one, we need 50 or more new refineries. That is when the price of gas will go down!
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