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Fill 'er up, with natural gas

Times Online -- Natural-gas filling stations are still a rarity in Pennsylvania.

But if a study conducted this year by Penn State University gets a favorable reaction from the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, that could soon change.

The commission is reviewing the study that will help determine the feasibility of installing natural-gas filling stations along the toll road.

“The concept of adding liquified natural gas stations or compressed natural gas stations is built on the Marcellus shale gas boom out there,” said Jack Christensen, the director of facilities and energy management for the turnpike commission. “It’s a high-quality fuel; it helps with pollution, it helps with national security on some levels, and we wanted to see if it would be a good fit for the turnpike.”

The study, which was compl


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 11:01:06 PM

tomok: the problem is, having stations to plan around... what if there aren't any (yet)?
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tomok
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Honda has a CNG vehicle on the market for quite a while now – Honda Civic GX. Get a refill kit for the home natural gas pipeline and fill it up there. If you are traveling, know where your refill stations are and plan according. There are many online sites that have CNG refill stations located across the US for people that have to refill their CNG vehicles. Plan your trip with those stations on the route.
To all those that think a CNG or a Hydrogen vehicle is a bomb waiting to happen. Why haven't gasoline vehicles exploded on the roads? It's just as explosive as CNG or Hydrogen or more so! Do you really think the government would allow bombs on the road? Engage brain and think about it!
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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OaklandInvaders
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Go CNG go CNG go!!!!
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OaklandInvaders
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Go for it and push these steelers to use CNg
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FJCruiserCA
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 9:24:35 AM

Go Nat Gas...
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SycamoreISU
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:36:21 AM

CNG is great IF you live near a fueling station and if you don't go very far.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 7:08:05 AM

I agree.
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tomok
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:09:20 AM

Fill 'er up, with natural gas, more CNG vehicles and filling stations.
As more and more vehicles are built to use natural gas OR converted over to natural gas, more natural gas will be used and the price of natural gas will go up. Don't expect natural gas to stay low for very long, the trend for all fuel prices is always up and up! It does Not matter if you have to heat your house with it either, higher natural gas prices coming. Recently, an article on here said that less natural gas will be produced because there is NO profit to keep drilling and producing more natural gas. Less Supply, Higher NatGas prices coming!
Big Oil and Big Gas exports fuel and natural gas to other countries that will pay more for it, much more than here. There will be NO price reduction or cheaper prices for natural gas IN the US, so it does NOT matter how much crude oil or natural gas is produced.
'Coming out of the closet' Fred's lousy, smoke and mirrors, lack of jobs, dog and pony show and in the crapper economy, the 'jobs' are Not here. Fred's economy is not improving but continues to hurt the population and the job numbers continue to be down – no matter how smoooooth talking Fred spins those numbers! People will still drive and buy fuel no matter what but it sure helps to have a job too!
My current vehicle was paid for years ago and I don't need any new car payments now! I will drive my current vehicle into the ground before buying anything new, used, EV, Inbred, diesel, hydrogen, alternative fuel, CNG, concept and certainly not a Prius, Tesla, Leaf or Volt!
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
XII/XXII/MMXII!
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:07:14 PM

I'm ok with that,as long as I could save $$$$
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:06:22 PM

Ok
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I just want options, just like this November.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:03:51 PM

This is better than electric.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:02:33 PM

This is not the only alternative!!!
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:02:07 PM

Old News
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:01:32 PM

OOOOOUUh!
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:01:28 PM

bring it on
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:00:54 PM

OGW (LONDON) Stated - The US only has to look to the natural gas leader in the world to find out, they have been there, had CNG stations and vehicles and it does not work well. Natural gas is great for heating and manufacturing but it is not a good vehicle fuel. If better engines built for natural gas fuel are developed that may change but retro fitting gasoline engines with conversion kits is a total waste of time and money and you won't be happy with the results.
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Sir, your very correct; I once stated months ago; "Careful what You wish for"; many see this as a panacea for all their energy woes. Power is not as good as gasoline, quality of this fuel in cold weather, definitely not great. Remember, the qualities of propane vehs in winter, also no good, you will see the same for natural gas.
Due to safety factors, refuelling is not just put the nozzle in and fill up! Wait for it... you will probably not be happy!
Actually I am sure you will not like it and regret it.
Caveat - Maybe OK in the warmer southern states, however power is not there and refuelling will not be user friendly!

[Edited by: CdnLynx at 10/22/2012 12:03:35 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:59:55 PM

Maybe more prevalent one day.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:59:45 PM

Okay.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:57:58 PM

CNG is a great fuel, too bad Obama is trying to regulate it to death.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:55:41 PM

It will be a great fit for transportation.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:52:53 PM

Still too expensive to conv.
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There are still complications to be dealt with
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If you build it, they will come
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true statement!!!
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:46:59 PM

No NG filling in this area yet.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:45:06 PM

BIG OIL will have a say in this!
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:43:24 PM

Interesting
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Don't be too fast to build as a lot has to be proven yet.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:39:35 PM

we need to use more natural gas
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:38:51 PM

Makes a lot more sense than EVs in the short term.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:36:33 PM

go 4
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:36:22 PM

Shell has also committed to supplying CNG. If they follow through, you should be able to easily fuel up anywhere and CNG vehicles will be the wave of the future.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:31:32 PM

The US only has to look to the natural gas leader in the world to find out, they have been there, had CNG stations and vehicles and it does not work well. Natural gas is great for heating and manufacturing but it is not a good vehicle fuel. If better engines built for natural gas fuel are developed that may change but retro fitting gasoline engines with conversion kits is a total waste of time and money and you won't be happy with the results.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:25:41 PM

using natural gas is a good short-term fix for our vehicle fuel needs and reduces our dependence on imported oil
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:24:14 PM

need gas staions to sell it
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:21:59 PM

Sounds good all around... now lets just make it feasable for the general consumers wallet and we're good to go!
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:21:44 PM

Overdue
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:21:32 PM

They are a rarity in Austin also
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:19:30 PM

Z51...on the contrary the volatility of gas fumes is extremely high, while NG is lighter than air and rises with a very narrow window (fumes/oxygen) when they can explode.

CNG is safer to use than gasoline because of its low chance of flammability. Although CNG is flammable, chances are slim since it is lighter than air which means it can scatter very fast. CNG can only be flammable when the concentration of the air is five to fifteen percent natural gas which is not likely to happen in most cases.

Google the topic as your comments are 'old wives' tales.

[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 10/21/2012 11:20:20 PM EST]
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I'll make sure to put a pipe up my butt.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:15:42 PM

We need more natural gas filling stations, this is the energy of the future.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:14:19 PM

k
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When will the natural gas vehicle become the thing to have>?
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:09:53 PM

Interesting article...
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Looks good to me.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:07:59 PM

I have known folks with these cars,dependeble and good mileage between refills. always a challange to fuel away from the office
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Good for our state.
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Stimulus money has been spent, the pipe dream is over.
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Always sounds good but...reality?
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