Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 5:20:08 PM
They were probably stupid enough not to use a Japanese car.
It's common knowledge (at least in Michigan) that Japanese cars are junk.
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kelsielee

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:27:13 PM
Not happy to hear that 20% of my auto insurance premium goes to pay fraud. The people who stage such accidents probably think that they are only hurting the large insurance companies. However, the costs are simply passed along to those of us who buy auto insurance and don't engage in fraud.
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 10:13:00 PM
Staged automobile accidents cost us more money for insurance and sometimes people's lives.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:24:21 PM
fordmexico wrote:
>Second, Most illegals do everything they can to avoid >deliberate contact with law enforcement. Not much >common sense if you think otherwise.
They're complaining in the Houston MSM (mainstream media... not the MSM that gets you disqualified from blood and tissue donation) that a lot of Hispanics don't do the census.
>Finally, Most illegals do not have SSAN's that are >required by insurance companies to obtain coverage >(and they do check them cause they run credit bureaus >to determine risk).
Not all insurance companies require a SSAN.
When I recently changed companies, I gave them my SSAN and then everything popped up ("you had a comprehensive claim last April and that's it"). I got tired of AIG Centennial Insurance raising rates and so I went back to State Farm.
And, if you can't qualify for a SSAN, you can get an ITIN. Credit checks can be run on an ITIN.
>The answer, these individuals were most likely citizens >or individuals with a legal right to be in the USA with >a capability to obtain drivers licenses and auto >insurance.
And they probably made the mistake of not using a Toyota.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:06:13 PM
runningmp wrote:
>So how does this article pertain to gas prices?
The moderators' story guidelines also allow covering energy production and motor vehicles.
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playtimeCLE

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 9:43:11 AM
What is worse, Driving with out insurance? or abusing insurance???
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Terrapinone

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:33:53 AM
This kind of thing has been going on for so long.
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derKraut

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:32:26 AM
Yup - FordMexico - I, too, expected the Car(s) to be Toyotas.
Wait though - that scam is coming for sure.
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derKraut

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 8:31:18 AM
Organized crime at its best and it is everywhere especially among illegal immigrants who get paid for participating.
It is shameful so many Doctors and Lawyers are ripping consumers off by being part of it for $$$.
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coughlin

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:52:56 AM
How did this conversation go? Probably thought up at a local Bar the night before. In my mind's eye, I hear "Cheech and Chong" figuring out the best way to do this.
They were going to do it right then, Thursday night, but figured that their Blood/Alcohol level might have unintended consequences on their plan, so they waited until Friday night. "Frank, you're the youngest and the healthiest, so we're going to smash into you. We'll come flying down Hamilton Avenue at about 60 miles an hour, so be stopped right on the corner, ok man? And don't worry. Just put your seat belt on. And try to relax your muscles, because a lot of injuries occur because people 'tense up'. Don't worry, man. I'll put the brakes on just before I hit you, so it will be 'reverse energy' and you won't feel anything. And you can use my St. Christopher metal.
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:03:37 AM
they must be politicians .
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JoeKR

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:56:16 PM
When so many people are under or unemployed, such schemes will be in ascendancy - sort of the poor man's answer to executive bonuses.
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pyndasky

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:54:08 PM
article doesn't say, but I wonder if they were using a Toyota?
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fordmexico

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:53:30 PM
I agree with Jarod13's post "I won't be a bit surprised if all of a sudden there's a rash of auto accidents that claims to be related to Toyota's recall problems"
When I first saw the headline I expected the vehicle to be a Toyota.
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fordmexico

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:50:16 PM
Think about your post Blue Cruzer "I wonder if these people are citizens or illegals?"
First, You are assuming any not having an Anglo-Saxon name must be a non-citizen or illegal - NOT TRUE as already pointed out to you.
Second, Most illegals do everything they can to avoid deliberate contact with law enforcement. Not much common sense if you think otherwise.
Finally, Most illegals do not have SSAN's that are required by insurance companies to obtain coverage (and they do check them cause they run credit bureaus to determine risk). Since the fraud requires insurance coverage this would rule out most if not all illegals from the scam.
The answer, these individuals were most likely citizens or individuals with a legal right to be in the USA with a capability to obtain drivers licenses and auto insurance.
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MikLamb

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Texas
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:49:06 PM
Heh, new entrepreneurial spirit!
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altima2008

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:43:16 PM
This helps us with gas prices how????
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rumbleseat

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:37:47 PM
We are getting further and further from our original goal of having stories with at least some connection to autos, fuel, oil, etc. Come on, this is a stupid crime story, it should be given no credence, and should be in off topic, not in the news forum. For shame!
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:36:34 PM
Happened in central Texas not long ago. A guy faked his own death complete with a body from a cemetery - crash and fire late night, remote area, etc.
Cops didn't buy. The fire covered a lot of evidence but skid marks, car damage, and other things "just didn't look right". Hottest part of the fire was the driver seat. DNA didn't check out. Wife got a new boyfriend a little too soon - turned out to be the dead guy with insurance, of course.
He was a felon wanting to clear his record with a new identity. Got one too - a six digit TDCJ number. So did she.
I agree, not much to do with gasoline prices but might affect insurance rates.
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carlsonguitars

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Portland
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:31:44 PM
that's one way to get rich......... or at least get your name in an article and possibly be considered one of America's dumbest criminals....
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HA4CNN

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:31:35 PM
Maybe these people work for the Insurance Company to increase premiums.
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4warned

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:29:55 PM
When jobs are hard to find the crime rate usually goes up.
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PaylessKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:29:11 PM
Was a Toyota invoved?
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:27:05 PM
Good way to make money. This due to the fact that there is no investigation done for these incidents. Much easier to pay the bills. Why try to do something that would save money for the people and prosecute the criminal element.
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Ready Eddie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:26:09 PM
Fraud
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Sody33

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:25:01 PM
Several people have questioned whether these are illegals or not. There are a lot of people with either Hispanic names or names that sound Hispanic who are third, fourth, and even fifth or higher generations of Americans. Don't go around pasting labels on these people that probably don't belong to them. We have lots of Puerto Ricans who have Hispanic names as well and they are practically American citizens except for the fact that they don't want to join the U.S.A. because we have high taxes etc. Masso up there is an Italian surname despite the Lopez in the middle which might be Mama's maiden name. What they are is crooks by any other name. If we weren't in such bad shape jobwise people would not think up schemes like this to get money.
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Jeff4U

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:23:27 PM
runningmp; there are no gas price related stories here today. Just general news.
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computernut2008

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:22:15 PM
Shoot the scam artist
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skybiker

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:20:50 PM
Another common scam is to pull in front of you going a little slower and when you get within a car length they slam on their brakes forcing a collision...Be Careful out there....
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rxman1

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:20:03 PM
This just increases our insurance premiums.
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Blue_Cruzer

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:12:27 PM
I wonder if these people are citizens or illegals?
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runningmp

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:10:12 PM
So how does this article pertain to gas prices?
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Jarod13

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:09:26 PM
I won't be a bit surprised if all of a sudden there's a rash of auto accidents that claims to be related to Toyota's recall problems. There's already some suspicions surrounding the San Diego highway incident that the driver claims was related to Toyota's acceleration problems. Now the state of California is getting into the act claiming that Toyota sold vehicles in the state that they new had problems. All kinds of scams are going to come out of the wood work in order to make an easy buck -- or should I say millions or even billions when all is said and done.
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TBONE3

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:09:21 PM
Better not try it in PA! Insurance fraud will get you some time in the pokie.
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MDTDriver

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:08:42 PM
Whew they just wasting gas doing this or what.
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EVBuddy

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:08:00 PM
Maybe this will stop others.
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cv

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:05:53 PM
That sort of thing has happened in my area also.
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rippinusoff

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:05:41 PM
and this has what to do with gas prices?
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