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Andreoli on Oil & Fuel: There’s a danger to ditching diesel

Logistics Management -- The average truck consumes roughly 11,000 gallons of diesel per year. Consequently, even minor shifts in fuel prices have a significant impact on operating costs. For instance, when applied to a fleet of 100 trucks, a price drop of 25 cents per gallon generates annual savings exceeding a quarter of a million dollars.

Of course, in a competitive environment, some, if not all of these savings, are passed on to shippers, but the opposite is also true. When prices increase, shippers, carriers, and consumers all take a hit.

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Submitted Aug 01, 2012 By: doeslayersr
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:20:41 AM

EVB: much of that comes from having to be around lots of pollution - not just the diesel trucks and their outputs.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 8:19:59 AM

diesel has its place. We could make it much better by going B-50 or B-75 using homegrown oils which can come from plants that would actually improve the soils upon which they are grown, rather than depleting them.
EVBuddy
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 6:16:44 AM

And truck drivers get more cancer accotding to the EPA
tomok
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 4:48:48 AM

Go with the fuel that makes sense at the time. If diesel is the best choice and price, so be it. If natural gas is your best choice, then use it. In town use, an EV or an Inbred might be a good choice. Use the vehicle and fuel that suits your application with the cheapest vehicle and fuel cost possible.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, has a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
vollee
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:35:02 PM

All energy sources have their pluses and minuses. Diesel is a good and effective combustion fuel for motive transport, especially long-haul. Natural Gas and CNG can be effective in short-haul and local delivery situations but has not been economical in long-haul.

Engines as developed will have a major impact on the economies of diesel vs. CNG or other fuel sources.

No matter what, we the consumer pay the transport cost.
J4romeo
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:33:27 PM

hmmm...savings?
rahcat
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:22:45 PM

Costs are always passed on the consumer.
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:18:09 PM

Natural Gas Hybrid?
tedjm1
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:15:13 PM

It's the consumer who pays for all.
theWizK
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:12:11 PM

Ok
judgemobile
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:11:19 PM

item above is WRONG...when carriers pay more, they pass that on to retailers. It is ALWAYS the final CONSUMER that takes the hit.
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:10:50 PM

hmmm
ican2step
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:05:56 PM

Okay
joel27nc
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:02:14 PM

Danger to the few not the majority.
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:02:13 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:01:54 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:01:53 PM

ok
txkrb
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:00:11 PM

I agree with gsayeg1 railroads more products should be shipped by rail
Due to inventory concerns etc everyone expects products to be delivered in two days
WE could save millions of gallons of diesel/oil by shipping more by railroad
evey315
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:59:29 PM

hummm
s6sputnik
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:57:34 PM

Duh!
OGW
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:57:18 PM

That part of it has not changed for the last 25 or more years but those who think that diesel can be replaced by natural gas have a lot to learn. NG is not capable of being the fuel that diesel is. Natural gas is NOT new and has been tested for years and does not standout as a vehicle fuel but is great for heating homes and factories.
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:56:29 PM

Changes will be made if and when it is cost-efficient.
pa79th
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:51:57 PM

Compressed Natural gas. Cheap, efficient, less polluting.
gsayeg1
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:51:48 PM

We have a vast system of railroads in America - time to use them
abcdMA
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:51:33 PM

oil prices, which have skyrocketed since 1-20-09
itsjustme719
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:50:49 PM

Okay.
knot2swift
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:50:02 PM

Well they could switch to cheap CNG and save money while not belching out big ugly clouds of black some.

Sorry but I have no love for diesels after being stuck behind one once too often on the way to work. Nothing like arriving with a headache for work even before the headache of work begins in the city.
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:46:48 PM

It is not going anywhere
HA4CNN
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:43:03 PM

Maybe we need flex fuel to counter act market conditions.
OOXXFF
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:40:52 PM

Diesel looks strong in this article.
clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:33:23 PM

Diesel is much better than many of the alternatives.

High mpg is a good quality.

[Edited by: clermont40miles at 8/1/2012 11:35:28 PM EST]
blk911
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:25:04 PM

GOOD!!
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:21:03 PM

We need to use all available resources.
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:20:26 PM

Ditch baby ditch
44Irish
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:20:03 PM

Ok???
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:20:02 PM

gas is 25% of my income. that is what a home is suppose to be. Still waiting for $2.00 or less a gallon
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:18:44 PM

any increase can only be aborbed for awhile but in time it will cost every up and down the line!
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:17:59 PM

OK!
TheSnowstorm
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:17:10 PM

It hasn't gotten easier over the years to be a fleet manager.
suzmar
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:14:35 PM

The same as a lot of other industries. Have you ever seen them make food packages larger after a decrease in size?
30mpg80
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:13:57 PM

Diesel fuel will continue to be used far into the future
frostyWV
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:13:32 PM

wait and see.
Bretagne15
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:13:11 PM

ok
AnObserver
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:12:54 PM

Trucks use fuel, truckers don't make as much money if the cost of fuel goes up
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:12:25 PM

OK!
mstearno
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:11:49 PM

always will have a market
Tekkersmom57
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:11:28 PM

Jmac2008, you hit the nail right on the head!
wayoung56
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:06:59 PM

Hmmmmmm...
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:06:19 PM

ok
BCweatherman
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:05:22 PM

Back in the 80's my neighbour has a natural gas pickup--- it had problems going up hills.
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meh
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