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A green split over natural gas plant

RenewablesBiz -- Jul 5 - McClatchy-Tribune Regional News - Tom Dalton The Salem News, Beverly, Mass.
The North Shore environmental community is divided over a proposal to build a natural gas power plant at Salem Harbor Station.
Although the organizations have not taken formal positions, leaders of the green groups are coming down on opposite sides -- or at least taking distinctly different stands -- on a plan unveiled last week by Footprint Power of New Jersey.

Last Tuesday, Footprint signed a purchase-and-sale agreement to buy the 745-megawatt plant from Dominion Energy of Virginia.

Footprint said it will clean up the site, take down the smokestacks and buildings and construct a new natural gas plant at a facility that has been burning coal and oil for the past half-century. In the long run, it said it


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BoerneWatch
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 9:22:42 AM

Eventually, natural gas will be so much more expensive that coal will seem like the better option.

The ash from coal plants and the captured carbon dioxide is very valuable to several key industries.
tomok
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 3:53:59 AM

Convert an unused coal and oil fired power plant to 'quick start' natural gas power plant. Environmental groups were opposed but with the loss of taxable income and jobs, some have changed their mind. No LNG tankers in the harbor or storage tanks but an off loading terminal one mile offshore. Don't use 'dirty' coal!
Less coal and oil electrical production and more 'cheaper' renewable energy from solar, wind, hydro, thermal, tidal and nuclear is possible.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
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repeat . . . again
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F*&K the green movement. NOTHING humans can create, hasn't already existed. It all eventually returns to it's normal state. Nature abhors a vacuum and seaks normality.
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Really old!
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Old.
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We need an across the board commodities prices cuts !!!!!!!!!.
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Ok
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okkk
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Surprise
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Sure
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ud it the Greenies want gas to
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Put the greenies in a boat........take them to the middle of Boston harbor and sink the boat.
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Greenies don't care which side- just as long as they get to protest.
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same carbon foot print, no solution here. Go Nuke.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:10:12 PM

matter of who can't agree with who.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:10:04 PM

OK
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It's time they put the green groups in the ocean.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:09:04 PM

OK
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:08:49 PM

Sounds good.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:07:44 PM

I have the feeling it's gonna take "green" of a different variety to get this matter resolved...
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:07:39 PM

More malcontents!
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:07:35 PM

As Rodney King once said, "Can't we all just get along?"
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:06:51 PM

Never able to make everyone happy, and these days no one is willing to compromise either.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:06:18 PM

How about leave us alone and they can pay with their own taxes.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:03:13 PM

always dissenting opinions on how these should be run
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:02:36 PM

Go figure
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:02:20 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:01:35 PM

The "greenies" want less energy available. Cheap energy is what fuels capitalism...
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:00:16 PM

We are going to need the electricity.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:00:01 PM

This article is getting quite long in the tooth. Economics needs to be weighed into the equation.
69Bonne
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:54:03 PM

Wake up greenies, economics is important. What would happen 20-30 years from now if electricity demand keeps increasing and there's no local source of power? Higher electric costs, brownouts, etc.
ROSYMI
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:52:57 PM

what a deal
FlyNFool
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:52:00 PM

Natural gas is not "green". It's just a smart alternative.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:49:36 PM

ok
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You gotta get through me hugging this tree first!
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:47:20 PM

Par for the course. Greenies can't agree on much.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:44:45 PM

Cleaner is better.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:38:27 PM

The problems with these agreements: They look so good on paper, but when the company's done with what they want to do, they move on and leave a HUGE mess in your backyard.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:35:39 PM

It's A heck of a deal.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:34:35 PM

You can not please the environmentists, they will find fault with every thing but don't take away their A/C, electricity, heat and automobiles. They would give these up if they believed what they preach.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:32:31 PM

who cares
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:27:05 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:26:34 PM

OK
Tracer2008
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:25:07 PM

745 megawatt is a pretty decent size
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:23:47 PM

Ok
sillywagon
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 10:20:49 PM

This is a reminder that not all environmentalists are NIMBY's.
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