findcheap
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:27:15 AM
Calif. leads with consumer protection efforts again
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eddmac
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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:27:06 AM
errors are reality, hiding them or ignoring them is not.
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ashishpa
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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:24:15 AM
Agree toyota had very good quality but they also did big mistakes and they now have to pay for it.
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GMVAN
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Calgary
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:19:43 AM
If thats what it takes for them to open up their books.
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Retowered
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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:15:51 AM
I won't buy one.
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TPlayer
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Fort Wayne
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:11:17 AM
California needs money and this is their new tobacco bank haul... Why didn't they go after Ford for all their fire recalls... Ford did the same thing... is it because Californian's prefer Toyota over 'domestic' brands... the prosecutor is looking to forward their political career... it's what all lawyers do, go after the person with the biggest pockets and media attention...
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ItsMorph
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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:09:18 AM
Toyota turned stupid. Actually, in a worse way than GM, Chrysler, and Ford.
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fillibuster
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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:07:39 AM
It will be a "foggy friday in france" before I or any of my friends and relatives will buy a Toyota!
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14of45SSR
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Saskatchewan
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:05:17 AM
Well that is one way to knock Toyota out of the #1 spot!
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Gary65
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 2:03:52 AM
Toyota is finished for a very long time, those poor dealers are going to have a rough time.
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RichardoB
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:58:50 AM
Toyota will pay for this for years.
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RENEGADEGAS
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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:57:31 AM
No more Toyota stories not related to oil and fuel prices please. Thank you.
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pbc2001
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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:57:04 AM
We shall see what the future holds.
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zdn
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:54:14 AM
whos next
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Lenguado
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:43:35 AM
Suit: GM ignored defects
Suit: Chrysler ignored defects
Suit: Ford ignored defects
Suit: Pontiac ignored defects
Suit: Mazda ignored defects
Suit: Honda ignored defects
Suit: Mercury ignored defects
Suit: Subaru ignored defects
Which auto manufacturer has NOT ignored defects. . . untill sued...
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10k
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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:42:04 AM
i'm not saying what toyota did, or didn't do, was right, but look back over the years at the exploding pinto, the explorers that blew off the road with a 20mph crosswind, and firestone with their shredding tires-did congress give them "what for" in an effort to score election day browny points ??..
that's all this is folks-election day brownie points..
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N5EXY
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Austin
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:39:31 AM
TOYOTA - once you drive one you'll never stop.
Sounds better than fix or repair daily, found on the road dead, ford has a better idea, king of the sixes, ask the man who owns one, etc.
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MrHighwaySafety
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:39:17 AM
Toyota going out of business to avoid paying multiple lawsuits?
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DougKramer
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:37:46 AM
Come on Benjy, let's not blame all of the Japanese people for possible errors (I didn't really look into the issue. I suspect American politics is involved; like what the Dem leadership in Congress is trying to do to it's fiscally more responsible co-party members there ... appalling.
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srchr
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:34:37 AM
there's a law against it
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nehemiah
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:34:27 AM
would like to know if they actually knew
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Mooseman1
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:33:10 AM
Let's see what Toyota does next. That will determine their reputation.
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benjy
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:31:01 AM
Never liked Japan, never will.....
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:26:58 AM
"Certainly they ignored the defects, or at least they hid them from public knowledge."
In this day and age, it is very difficult to hide much from public knowledge.
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jadeusa
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:26:18 AM
If a manufacturer make a product that has a known defect, they should go about fixing the defect rather than hiding in the sand or trying to deflect via lawyers defense.
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comprof
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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:25:27 AM
Toyota is only interested in making money as is the case of most large industries. Worse than this is the fact that Congress is only interested in getting re-elected and majing a lot of money under the table. I'll take industries any time.
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joel27nc
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:25:17 AM
I'm not buying a Toyota!
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runway12
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:21:15 AM
In large companies the reality is things do get ignored. For Example look at some of the issues with computer software makers.
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250FORD
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:19:03 AM
Go California, I was almost hit by one of these out of control pieces of $hit yesterday. When you consider Toyota consists of maybe 5% of the vehicles around here thats big. I thought it was my lucky day so I bought a lottery ticket. Missing getting hit used all my luck up. I should have stayed in front of him and let him hit me as to slow him down.
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unicornpmb
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:12:48 AM
I wonder if the truth will ever get out?
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REVLAW
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:11:19 AM
Seems a political move.
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Saturn93
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:10:57 AM
Old news. The attorney feeding frenzy has begun.
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Italianman
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:08:17 AM
Isn't their anything else in the world happening other than Toyota?
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must87searcher
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 12:02:03 AM
Lawsuite was evident to happen to Toyota.
It is not s surprice that it too so long to happen since there are a lot less people who got the money to sue others today.
It is for sure that the US, South Korean, German, Swedish, and the other Japanese automakers are going to like this stuff Toyota is going through.
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JoeKR
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:58:49 PM
vulca96: perhaps you missed the word "California"!
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altonb1
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:58:14 PM
Jeanmarie: Toyota has known about sudden acceleration complaints for close to a decade and the problems still aren't resolved. It was only about 6 months ago that they were blaming the consumer for stepping on the wrong pedal, then blaming the isue on improperly installed floor mats, then the vendor that made the pedals, and now are trying to blame the issue on mechanical failures of the pedal design rather than admit to the obvious software flaw. But you claim they have not covered anything up? Really?
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THEDodgeman
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:57:35 PM
put it to them.......BOHICA
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vulcan96
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:56:02 PM
the new govment motors is really pushing this witch hunt !
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roadjet
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Baton Rouge
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:52:21 PM
This sounds like a witch hunt.
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pyndasky
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:51:03 PM
very tough to prove.... i wonder if they have a "smoking gun"?
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altima2008
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:49:52 PM
More bad news for toyoyta.
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MikLamb
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:47:51 PM
Looks like Toyota is facing more than consumer wrath.
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MyVue08
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:47:49 PM
Duplicate Information!!
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toyota1999
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:44:36 PM
Toyota will have to answer the claims some have made that they hid defects from the government. If it is true, Toyota will pay billions.
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Jeannemarie
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:44:36 PM
they have not been covering up anything at Toyota. They have been quite open about some possible problems with their customers sending notifications and taking the time to do what needs to be done and providing a place and time as well. We have a motor home on a Ford Chassis - one ton and it has a recall but try to get it in to get it fixed. Ain't happening! We have called and called all the numbers they gave us and none seem to know what to do. I would rather deal with Toyota than Chrysler, GM, or Ford and of those three Ford is my favorite. The others are almost over the river and through the woods to the crazy place.
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bigmaninarig
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:43:38 PM
I foresee Toyota only building in Japan from now on after this case is settled.
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PetroScopper
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:43:08 PM
Toyota has done this to themselves, they could have made things go a lot differently. I believe that they will come back from all of these problems, but this will cost the company for a lot of years to come.
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Buddy2264
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:38:22 PM
I would imagine if we check all vehicles manufactured have some problem. The will find it is electrical and correct it, I am sure. Conservation keeps your money in your pocket.
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4warned
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:32:15 PM
If they would have taken care of business this probably would not have happen. Cover ups always come back to haunt you.
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carlsonguitars
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:32:15 PM
I am surprised there aren't more lawsuits against TOYOTA - both civil AND criminal!!!
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HA4CNN
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 11:27:01 PM
I hope they come clean soon for there own sake
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