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Fugitive Methane Caught in the Act of Raising GHG

Forbes -- It turns out that greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions are much higher from using natural gas to produce electricity than from using coal. So much for the myth that replacing coal with gas will help stave off global warming.

The culprit of these GHG emissions is fugitive emissions of methane. Since methane is a far more potent GHG than CO2, this is bad. Fugitive losses include loss of methane from the well-head during flow-back return of the fluids, during drill-out following fracturing and during well-venting, plus losses from equipment leaks, losses during transport, storage, and distribution, processing losses and losses during liquid unloading. (Is methane coming out of your faucet fugitive?)

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Submitted Jul 16, 2012 By: Mudsprings

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JDisNo1 Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:129 Points:89,120 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:03:24 PM Ignore JDisNo1 Report Abuse it said in the article "methane is potent" .... yeah it is!!!
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fugue Sophomore Author Virginia Posts:167 Points:291,795 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:43:31 PM Ignore fugue Report Abuse I suppose that Forbes hasn't gotten the memo that mankind somehow does not control every little thing.
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wz Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,484 Points:1,276,340 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:38:02 PM Ignore wz Report Abuse If you include the acquisition costs of Natural Gas, you must also include acquisition (mining and transportation) costs of coal and nuclear and the materials for building all types of generators. All this is still a miniscule component of any global warming (or global cooling or climate change), since the dominant contributor to significant climate change is solar flare activity.
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