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U.S. Air Force tests biofuel at $59 per gallon

Reuters -- The U.S. Navy angered Republicans by spending $26 a gallon for biofuels for this week's Great Green Fleet demonstration, but the Air Force received little attention when it paid twice as much per gallon to test synthetic jet fuel last month.

The Air Force bought 11,000 gallons of alcohol-to-jet fuel from Gevo Inc, a Colorado biofuels company, at $59 a gallon in a program aimed at proving that new alternative fuels can be used reliably in military aircraft - once, that is, their pricing is competitive with petroleum, which now costs $3.60 a gallon.

The cost of the Air Force demonstration - $639,000 - was far less eye-catching than the $12 million the Navy spent for biofuels to power a carrier strike group on alternative energy for a day.


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69Bonne
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They sure know how to spend our money needlessly.
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They have unlimited money. :{
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:21:10 PM

There's such a thing as a defense budget so I hope this was worked in. yea, right....
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:19:07 PM

Way to go President Barack Hussein Obama administration, you do love to spend other peoples money don't you.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:18:37 PM

sounds like a $300 toilet seat they bought in the 90's
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:18:06 PM

wow... ok thats a lot of money for fuel
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:17:46 PM

wow
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:16:15 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:15:13 PM

With production, price will come down. But the price per gallon is irrelevant if you're in the midst of battle and without fuel.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:13:34 PM

Who in their right mind would approve pay over 15 times as much as conventional fuel? Oh yeah, the Obama administration.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:12:07 PM

More taxpayer $$$ wasted ...
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:10:17 PM

Talk about awaste of money and they want to pull military advertising away from NASCAR.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:08:51 PM

holy smokes
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GO FIGURE!
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:05:32 PM

to much
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:04:08 PM

Research,trying out an idea, costs big bucks, but you try it out BEFORE YOU RUN OUT of your usual fuel
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:03:58 PM

wow
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:00:17 PM

Crazy... but I guess it is another illustration that government doesn't care what it costs as long as the taxpayers are seen as having deep pockets.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:58:09 PM

TDIdave - yeah but the government won't buy it at that price. It "costs" to go through all those layers of bureaucratic process.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:56:40 PM

Blasted Pentagon. They get 600 billion to 700 billion of the budget each year. The only government budget item taking more money is the interest on the national debt.

[Edited by: kacansas at 7/16/2012 8:57:53 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:55:50 PM

Sounds Good To Me...
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Politics.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:52:38 PM

GET IT DOWN TO $1.25 A GALLON AND WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:52:32 PM

The price will come down. I can make biodiesel for less than $2.00 / gallon.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:52:32 PM

Waste !!!!!
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:51:33 PM

Who were the lawmakers behind this?
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:50:06 PM

testing and spending money...not sure if the outcome is worth the cost.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:48:15 PM

What? is it cheaper for them?
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:46:08 PM

I don't mind the military running tests on this stuff. It's just funny/sad that something becomes newsworthy if there's a "million" attached to it
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:46:06 PM

Politicians forcing the military to be the genie pig for bio-fuels.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:45:13 PM

What a deal!
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More green fraud.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:43:03 PM

Ludicrous! They should show a financially equitable cost of fuel before the military throws our taxpayer money at another "green energy" scheme.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:40:33 PM

$59 per gallon. Amazing. That's right up there with the $150 hammers and $200 toilet seats that I read the pentagon bought a few years ago.
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I hope it is safe
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:38:30 PM

Oh yeah, this just fits in perfectly with the other Non-car & truck driving gasbuddys!
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:38:28 PM

oh well...
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:36:32 PM

On Jul 16, 2012 7:25:17 PM, jwduke1 wrote:

>Ovomit will be interested in this!

Rvomit will also be interested in the military having a cache of substitute fuel ready to go if the President orders a strike. The whole program is funded under the Assured Access To Fuel Initiative.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:35:21 PM

If these fuels dont last 3 or 4 times longer than "basic fuels"; all hope is gone for humanity.
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Taxpayers money wasted for sure!!!!!!.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:28:25 PM

On Jul 16, 2012 7:07:58 PM, Alaydown wrote:

>singlemom27, this is the Obama regime's decision, not the military's.

Romney would have likely funded the same research. The military will not risk their assets on a throwaway mission unless they keep the assembly line open to quickly replenish the stock. Doolittle's Raid was a one-way raid (landing on friendly territory if they could) just to prove they could bomb targets of the Empire of Japan and destroy the ability to feed their populace and the ability to make any more weapons of war.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:26:08 PM

waste
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What a waste.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:25:31 PM

remember the line from independence day where the father (judd hirsch)-you don't actually think their pay 59 dollars for ethanol do you? hahahahahahaha this is how they are going to fund the military in the future.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:25:27 PM

Ouch. What a waste
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Just another reason we are $16T in debt.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:25:17 PM

Ovomit will be interested in this!
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:24:58 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:20:14 PM



At this point, a waste of tax dollars.

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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:19:30 PM

So what does the first paragraph tell you?
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:18:51 PM

WHAT?!?!
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:18:02 PM

On Jul 16, 2012 7:00:19 PM, singlemom27 wrote:

>The military needs to learn the "Proof of Concept" method for doing things
>on a very small scale to see if they're possible before investing large sums
>of money on a theory.

They do try things on a very small scale before they invest much money. For example, the military runs a multiengine plane with one engine running on the tested fuel and all the others running on conventional fuel so they don't crash the plane. Only if the fuel passes all requirements for a substitute fuel do they entrust it with a whole airplane.

>Who thought powering an entire carrier strike group was a good way to test
>something early in development?

A carrier strike group runs their missions having sufficient fuel. The only way they can determine that all engines can run on the substitute fuel is to actually run an actual exercise on the new fuel. The logistics are a lot cheaper if the military adopts a standard fuel that has backup sources of fuel.
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