GasBuddy Blog

GasBuddy News Article

votes

U.S. Air Force tests biofuel at $59 per gallon

Reuters -- The U.S. Navy angered Republicans by spending $26 a gallon for biofuels for this week's Great Green Fleet demonstration, but the Air Force received little attention when it paid twice as much per gallon to test synthetic jet fuel last month.

The Air Force bought 11,000 gallons of alcohol-to-jet fuel from Gevo Inc, a Colorado biofuels company, at $59 a gallon in a program aimed at proving that new alternative fuels can be used reliably in military aircraft - once, that is, their pricing is competitive with petroleum, which now costs $3.60 a gallon.

The cost of the Air Force demonstration - $639,000 - was far less eye-catching than the $12 million the Navy spent for biofuels to power a carrier strike group on alternative energy for a day.

Read the Full Article

Submitted Jul 16, 2012 By: Mudsprings

Back To News

Category: Daily News Article Discussions > Topics	Add to favorite topics

Author	Topic: U.S. Air Force tests biofuel at $59 per gallon	Post a Reply Back to Topics

REPLIES (newest first)Ignore Short Messages

First Prev

Next Last

69Bonne Champion Author Gary Posts:1,165 Points:476,075 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:24:15 PM Ignore 69Bonne Report Abuse They sure know how to spend our money needlessly.
mabrams184 Champion Author Lexington Posts:2,109 Points:535,740 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:21:49 PM Ignore mabrams184 Report Abuse They have unlimited money. :{
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,837 Points:1,180,220 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:21:10 PM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse There's such a thing as a defense budget so I hope this was worked in. yea, right....
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,426 Points:424,850 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:19:07 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Way to go President Barack Hussein Obama administration, you do love to spend other peoples money don't you.
tutaw Champion Author Kentucky Posts:3,613 Points:844,695 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:18:37 PM Ignore tutaw Report Abuse sounds like a $300 toilet seat they bought in the 90's
Bretagne15 Rookie Author Louisville Posts:40 Points:59,065 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:18:06 PM Ignore Bretagne15 Report Abuse wow... ok thats a lot of money for fuel
JDisNo1 Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:129 Points:89,120 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:17:46 PM Ignore JDisNo1 Report Abuse wow
pbug101 Champion Author Georgia Posts:2,469 Points:581,850 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:16:15 PM Ignore pbug101 Report Abuse Ok
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,084 Points:1,450,275 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:15:13 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse With production, price will come down. But the price per gallon is irrelevant if you're in the midst of battle and without fuel.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,630 Points:3,496,655 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:13:34 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Who in their right mind would approve pay over 15 times as much as conventional fuel? Oh yeah, the Obama administration.
DandyDapple All-Star Author North Dakota Posts:715 Points:312,320 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:12:07 PM Ignore DandyDapple Report Abuse More taxpayer $$$ wasted ...
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,799 Points:848,800 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:10:17 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse Talk about awaste of money and they want to pull military advertising away from NASCAR.
jdc17327 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,560 Points:198,015 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:08:51 PM Ignore jdc17327 Report Abuse holy smokes
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,315 Points:1,639,895 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:06:06 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse GO FIGURE!
ROSYMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,028 Points:370,250 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:05:32 PM Ignore ROSYMI Report Abuse to much
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,060 Points:1,489,805 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:04:08 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Research,trying out an idea, costs big bucks, but you try it out BEFORE YOU RUN OUT of your usual fuel
Bildawg Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,071 Points:483,545 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:03:58 PM Ignore Bildawg Report Abuse wow
btex49 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,730 Points:533,030 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 8:00:17 PM Ignore btex49 Report Abuse Crazy... but I guess it is another illustration that government doesn't care what it costs as long as the taxpayers are seen as having deep pockets.
Bald1usa Veteran Author District of Columbia Posts:383 Points:849,715 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:58:09 PM Ignore Bald1usa Report Abuse TDIdave - yeah but the government won't buy it at that price. It "costs" to go through all those layers of bureaucratic process.
kacansas All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:770 Points:233,285 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:56:40 PM Ignore kacansas Report Abuse Blasted Pentagon. They get 600 billion to 700 billion of the budget each year. The only government budget item taking more money is the interest on the national debt. [Edited by: kacansas at 7/16/2012 8:57:53 PM EST]
swrestler Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,150 Points:1,574,100 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:55:50 PM Ignore swrestler Report Abuse Sounds Good To Me...
LaVonneK Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,955 Points:628,700 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:54:55 PM Ignore LaVonneK Report Abuse Politics.
DABEE1073 Champion Author San Diego Posts:8,215 Points:1,575,035 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:52:38 PM Ignore DABEE1073 Report Abuse GET IT DOWN TO $1.25 A GALLON AND WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT.
TDIdave Champion Author California Posts:5,068 Points:1,226,690 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:52:32 PM Ignore TDIdave Report Abuse The price will come down. I can make biodiesel for less than $2.00 / gallon.
kosciak Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,106 Points:535,775 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:52:32 PM Ignore kosciak Report Abuse Waste !!!!!
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,238 Points:1,227,750 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:51:33 PM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse Who were the lawmakers behind this?
lindyleigh123 Rookie Author Virginia Posts:42 Points:35,075 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:50:06 PM Ignore lindyleigh123 Report Abuse testing and spending money...not sure if the outcome is worth the cost.
Topshopper2011 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,017 Points:278,295 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:48:15 PM Ignore Topshopper2011 Report Abuse What? is it cheaper for them?
fugue Sophomore Author Virginia Posts:167 Points:294,045 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:46:08 PM Ignore fugue Report Abuse I don't mind the military running tests on this stuff. It's just funny/sad that something becomes newsworthy if there's a "million" attached to it
Piniewoods All-Star Author Jacksonville Posts:892 Points:461,915 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:46:06 PM Ignore Piniewoods Report Abuse Politicians forcing the military to be the genie pig for bio-fuels.
knutzAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,248 Points:372,680 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:45:13 PM Ignore knutzAL Report Abuse What a deal!
mrpc90 Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,152 Points:1,929,065 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:45:03 PM Ignore mrpc90 Report Abuse More green fraud.
wz Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,499 Points:1,279,265 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:43:03 PM Ignore wz Report Abuse Ludicrous! They should show a financially equitable cost of fuel before the military throws our taxpayer money at another "green energy" scheme.
DeHavilland Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,885 Points:1,906,190 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:40:33 PM Ignore DeHavilland Report Abuse $59 per gallon. Amazing. That's right up there with the $150 hammers and $200 toilet seats that I read the pentagon bought a few years ago.
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,150 Points:1,704,030 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:39:56 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse I hope it is safe
SSchmidty Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,358 Points:1,779,155 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:38:30 PM Ignore SSchmidty Report Abuse Oh yeah, this just fits in perfectly with the other Non-car & truck driving gasbuddys!
CAroadrunner101 Champion Author California Posts:1,832 Points:1,317,150 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:38:28 PM Ignore CAroadrunner101 Report Abuse oh well...
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,340 Points:2,145,125 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:36:32 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Jul 16, 2012 7:25:17 PM, jwduke1 wrote: >Ovomit will be interested in this! Rvomit will also be interested in the military having a cache of substitute fuel ready to go if the President orders a strike. The whole program is funded under the Assured Access To Fuel Initiative.
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,363 Points:1,542,680 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:35:21 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse If these fuels dont last 3 or 4 times longer than "basic fuels"; all hope is gone for humanity.
g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,551 Points:935,620 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:29:16 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse Taxpayers money wasted for sure!!!!!!.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,340 Points:2,145,125 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:28:25 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Jul 16, 2012 7:07:58 PM, Alaydown wrote: >singlemom27, this is the Obama regime's decision, not the military's. Romney would have likely funded the same research. The military will not risk their assets on a throwaway mission unless they keep the assembly line open to quickly replenish the stock. Doolittle's Raid was a one-way raid (landing on friendly territory if they could) just to prove they could bomb targets of the Empire of Japan and destroy the ability to feed their populace and the ability to make any more weapons of war.
Kevin89TN Rookie Author Knoxville Posts:26 Points:2,275 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:26:08 PM Ignore Kevin89TN Report Abuse waste
ED6 Champion Author Riverside Posts:9,494 Points:1,853,080 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:25:42 PM Ignore ED6 Report Abuse What a waste.
nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,117 Points:575,140 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:25:31 PM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse remember the line from independence day where the father (judd hirsch)-you don't actually think their pay 59 dollars for ethanol do you? hahahahahahaha this is how they are going to fund the military in the future.
unicornIL Veteran Author Chicago Posts:446 Points:387,295 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:25:27 PM Ignore unicornIL Report Abuse Ouch. What a waste
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,134 Points:1,863,405 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:25:24 PM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse Just another reason we are $16T in debt.
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:15,604 Points:3,068,265 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:25:17 PM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse Ovomit will be interested in this!
IUVidiot Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,600 Points:711,385 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:24:58 PM Ignore IUVidiot Report Abuse ok
bbreff Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,858 Points:2,570,365 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:20:14 PM Ignore bbreff Report Abuse At this point, a waste of tax dollars.
radiorumor Champion Author Texas Posts:2,822 Points:755,810 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:19:30 PM Ignore radiorumor Report Abuse So what does the first paragraph tell you?
RitaVespa Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,991 Points:794,310 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:18:51 PM Ignore RitaVespa Report Abuse WHAT?!?!
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,340 Points:2,145,125 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 7:18:02 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Jul 16, 2012 7:00:19 PM, singlemom27 wrote: >The military needs to learn the "Proof of Concept" method for doing things >on a very small scale to see if they're possible before investing large sums >of money on a theory. They do try things on a very small scale before they invest much money. For example, the military runs a multiengine plane with one engine running on the tested fuel and all the others running on conventional fuel so they don't crash the plane. Only if the fuel passes all requirements for a substitute fuel do they entrust it with a whole airplane. >Who thought powering an entire carrier strike group was a good way to test >something early in development? A carrier strike group runs their missions having sufficient fuel. The only way they can determine that all engines can run on the substitute fuel is to actually run an actual exercise on the new fuel. The logistics are a lot cheaper if the military adopts a standard fuel that has backup sources of fuel.