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PD Moderator	Message Posted: Oct 18, 2010 12:55:34 PM Ignore PD Report Abuse NASCAR has announced its intention to use E15 in a wide spectrum of race vehicles starting in 2011 according to a press release. You'll remember that just three years ago, NASCAR still used leaded fuels, which had been banned from passenger vehicles for decades. CEO of NASCAR, Brian France, was quoted as saying "American ethanol creates jobs in the United States, helps foster energy independence and continues the greening of our sport." While NASCAR prepares to use E15 fuels, the IndyCar Series already had adopted use of 100% ethanol as its official fuel. NASCAR had been testing the use of E15 blended gasoline since early May. Teams have been testing the use throughout the season. Why the switch? Well, with the... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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NASCAR has announced its intention to use E15 in a wide spectrum of race vehicles starting in 2011 according to a press release. You'll remember that just three years ago, NASCAR still used leaded fuels, which had been banned from passenger vehicles for decades.

CEO of NASCAR, Brian France, was quoted as saying "American ethanol creates jobs in the United States, helps foster energy independence and continues the greening of our sport."

While NASCAR prepares to use E15 fuels, the IndyCar Series already had adopted use of 100% ethanol as its official fuel. NASCAR had been testing the use of E15 blended gasoline since early May. Teams have been testing the use throughout the season.

Why the switch? Well, with the...

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OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,717 Points:1,691,880 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2010 4:21:28 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse That's coming sooner than we thought; soon the series will end; and development of next year's powerplants will hit the track. Let's see how their mileage and reliability perform; they value both mileage and speed there.
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,717 Points:1,691,880 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 11, 2010 12:29:01 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse I'd like to be perfectly FRANK; and you were Frank B$ me. I wonder what kind of tea that Indian young woman had before she stumped Pres. B O B4 the world's TV coverage. I can't spell Djarleeing(but then I have trouble understanding Eastern Asian customer service phone bank operators, too) I'm certainly not xenophobic; but I'd better get to work on my 4N languages FRANKly. :)
Frankb4U All-Star Author San Bernardino Posts:549 Points:119,130 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2010 11:33:25 AM Ignore Frankb4U Report Abuse >What about tea party cars? Who cares about cars that can only turn more and more to the LEFT?> :)
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,623 Points:1,609,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2010 8:11:48 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse how about drinking the EtOH and driving less?
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,717 Points:1,691,880 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2010 3:54:35 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse What about tea party cars? Who cares about cars that can only turn more and more to the LEFT?
airduct Champion Author Florida Posts:11,319 Points:293,020 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 10:29:07 PM Ignore airduct Report Abuse LeftLane1, A good user name I might add. >THis is TOO BIG of a move at once for them, the "haves" will HAVE an advantage over the Have-Nots AGAIN, NASCAR will continue in it's declining direction with many. Ah, the class warfare begins.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,623 Points:1,609,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 10:13:12 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse it's no good either way. NASCAR has the $$$ to replace those cars, I don't.
LeftLane1 Champion Author Georgia Posts:13,946 Points:1,863,490 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 7:18:10 AM Ignore LeftLane1 Report Abuse I think this will cause issues at first, failures. Ethanol: Food is not fuel, Mileage is Lower with E10 & E15, engine wear is slightly more too. THis is TOO BIG of a move at once for them, the "haves" will HAVE an advantage over the Have-Nots AGAIN, NASCAR will continue in it's declining direction with many.
traindude Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,624 Points:1,495,855 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 6:25:35 AM Ignore traindude Report Abuse great, now the Indy 500 will take 2 days
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,305 Points:1,637,945 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 10:39:14 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse YEAH..IT COULD BE A DISASTER!
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,014 Points:2,345,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 3:22:00 PM Ignore tomok Report Abuse NASCAR can use E15 in racecars in 2011, I could care less! I do not want to use E15, E10, E5, E85, E100 in my vehicles or small engines.
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:13,717 Points:1,691,880 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 12:50:45 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse I'm glad it was reposted; and hope it continues to be. Inquiring minds want to know more than just once.
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:14,739 Points:2,093,830 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 8:48:27 AM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse REPOST ! NASCAR to use ethanol fuel mix (posted 18 Oct 10) (first REPOST!) NASCAR moving to ethanol fuel mix for 11 (posted 16 Oct5 10) (original article) [Edited by: Martinman at 10/19/2010 9:48:48 AM EST]
fillerupyeoww Champion Author Columbus Posts:5,880 Points:1,649,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:53:36 AM Ignore fillerupyeoww Report Abuse Why not?
MUSTANGSRUS Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,558 Points:1,544,415 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:47:00 AM Ignore MUSTANGSRUS Report Abuse I wonder how many more engines will splood - as D. W. says - next year. I am going to be watching next year with great anticipation.
RamboOn66 Champion Author Tampa Posts:5,311 Points:1,884,805 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:41:09 AM Ignore RamboOn66 Report Abuse Been a NASCAR "groupie" for 40+years. Still wonder why they don't just make 'em run on street pumped gas with 5 liter "motors"? It'll slow 'em down without all those other silly gadgets. Let 'em "run whatcha brung".
fordfan1 Champion Author Indiana Posts:9,092 Points:1,891,015 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:41:00 AM Ignore fordfan1 Report Abuse I bet that there will be a lot more blown engines next season!
bumpygas Champion Author Nebraska Posts:8,130 Points:1,901,085 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:40:08 AM Ignore bumpygas Report Abuse The one thing Brian France didn't say was that American ethanol destroys engines. They ask "Why the switch?" The answer is that is has been shoved down their throats just like it has everyone elses throat by our Federal Government.
GearGuy All-Star Author Detroit Posts:727 Points:1,761,820 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:38:17 AM Ignore GearGuy Report Abuse Easy for them to update any fuel system parts they need to, and it's not like they need anything to last 20 years, more like 20 weeks, or 20 days. Kind of hard for us to update a fuel system.
Spike294 Rookie Author South Carolina Posts:93 Points:930,585 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:38:13 AM Ignore Spike294 Report Abuse Let's go racing on ethanol boy's
KM6SX Veteran Author California Posts:383 Points:292,965 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:38:10 AM Ignore KM6SX Report Abuse I can't wait till they are using electric cars for this... That'll be fun..
rogerparry Champion Author Florida Posts:9,560 Points:1,916,430 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:35:42 AM Ignore rogerparry Report Abuse Someone got paid big bucks for this one.
JoJoQc Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,336 Points:1,040,155 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:34:59 AM Ignore JoJoQc Report Abuse Agreed hubcapLA!
WonderfulMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:11,648 Points:1,786,910 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:34:34 AM Ignore WonderfulMI Report Abuse Read this link "Do race cars use gasoline like normal cars do or do they use something else?" http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/fuel-consumption/question202.htm "Do race cars use gasoline like normal cars do or do they use something else? Print Cite Feedback E-mail This Facebook Digg This Yahoo! Buzz StumbleUpon TwitThis Reddit Share Recommend Cite This!Close .Please copy/paste the following text to properly cite this HowStuffWorks article: "Do race cars use gasoline like normal cars do or do they use something else?" 01 April 2000. It depends on the type of race car you are talking about. For example: •NASCAR engines burn 110-octane leaded gasoline. •Indy cars burn pure methanol (a.k.a. wood alcohol, CH3OH). •Top Fuel dragsters and funny cars burn nitromethane (CH3NO2). Each of these fuels has advantages and disadvantages. For example, the methanol fuel used in Indy cars has the advantage that it can run at extremely high compression ratios (meaning more power -- see How Car Engines Work for details). Methanol also has a nice safety feature -- you can extinguish a methanol fire with water. 110-octane gasoline also handles high compression well. Nitromethane is basically a liquid explosive and contains a great deal of energy per unit volume (more than twice that of gasoline). "
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:7,780 Points:1,546,850 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:33:30 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse Ah NASCAR, the next most politically correct group. They are so "yesterday".
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,554 Points:1,172,595 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:32:07 AM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse The last sentence of the article says, "Bottom line? Good for NASCAR, but embracing the fuel at a retail pump is different." Something to think about.
heardva Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:1,675 Points:274,875 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:31:17 AM Ignore heardva Report Abuse okay
Diesel_Ram Champion Author Dallas Posts:6,502 Points:1,518,460 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:30:53 AM Ignore Diesel_Ram Report Abuse Several racing series run ethanol fuel. I still hate the stuff though!
mandoid Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:7,302 Points:1,526,970 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:29:46 AM Ignore mandoid Report Abuse "American ethanol creates jobs in the United States, helps foster energy independence and continues the greening of our sport." - ???
Ready Eddie Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,776 Points:1,343,745 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:27:36 AM Ignore Ready Eddie Report Abuse They blow engines all the time anyway.
dar 1 Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,893 Points:446,165 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:26:48 AM Ignore dar 1 Report Abuse Nascar uses a LOT of gas, between the race cars and all the spectators that drive hundreds of miles to get there.Gas at 4.00 this summer will help slow down this excessive use of fuel
NJColt Champion Author New Jersey Posts:12,640 Points:2,642,985 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:26:44 AM Ignore NJColt Report Abuse yeah, cause their cards will be tuned to run on it!
pw7793 Sophomore Author Georgia Posts:197 Points:948,725 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:25:58 AM Ignore pw7793 Report Abuse Nascar' vehicles should be able to be retuned to function on E15. Try doing that with your family car and see how much that is.
skippypa Champion Author Hawaii Posts:8,476 Points:1,740,930 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:25:11 AM Ignore skippypa Report Abuse Let's see how many cars get ruined!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rjd1608 Champion Author Toledo Posts:5,361 Points:1,930,005 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:24:10 AM Ignore rjd1608 Report Abuse ok
neptune2008 Champion Author Michigan Posts:8,573 Points:1,669,725 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:20:13 AM Ignore neptune2008 Report Abuse yea, let them ruin their cars
Ringmaster2008 Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,578 Points:1,164,535 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:19:50 AM Ignore Ringmaster2008 Report Abuse Will see how this plays out.
jeskibuff Champion Author Tampa Posts:7,882 Points:1,448,135 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:19:07 AM Ignore jeskibuff Report Abuse stpetebp said: "Wait until they start blowing up one hundred thousand dollar race cars." That'll be a fun show to watch. One hundred race cars exploding! But where can you buy a race car for $1000 these days? ;)
AvantiMick Champion Author Indiana Posts:12,742 Points:2,542,545 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:14:59 AM Ignore AvantiMick Report Abuse IF an engine is made for 15%, it'll be fine. Look at all the E-85 Flex-Fuel vehicles on the roads. But, most cars were designed for 10%.
gamalerin Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,752 Points:993,510 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:12:17 AM Ignore gamalerin Report Abuse Bad news .
pitamon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:4,904 Points:1,826,360 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:07:24 AM Ignore pitamon Report Abuse How will this affect their engines?
danny999 Champion Author Florida Posts:8,723 Points:1,639,060 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:06:48 AM Ignore danny999 Report Abuse DRIVERS GOING TO LOVE THIS.wILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY CARS LOSE BECAUSE OF THIS GARBAGE.NASCAR IS SELLING IT'S SOUL.
benjy Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,592 Points:1,788,370 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:05:56 AM Ignore benjy Report Abuse the coming trend?
theawesome1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:9,323 Points:1,726,150 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:05:23 AM Ignore theawesome1 Report Abuse So NASCAR Techs can rebuild cars of poor folks who bought new cars in 2007 that will not run on E15 without getting 15 MPG on HWY not 30 that I get now. Police now have new robbers. Restaurants that have their fenced in barrels of grease from the fryers, now have trucks pullin up & sucking out their profits for selling it to companies who turn it into biofuel. A restarant in CLE captured the men, license number, name of company who hired them to steal oil from restaurants. So now all restaurants have this system & security installed also.
LeeFree Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:9,151 Points:2,243,450 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:04:15 AM Ignore LeeFree Report Abuse I wonder what kind of deal was cut and with who to get NASCAR behind something like this?
subnuke Champion Author Atlanta Posts:7,503 Points:1,508,390 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:02:08 AM Ignore subnuke Report Abuse Not good for us.
NotmeuQc Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,651 Points:1,133,925 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:01:11 AM Ignore NotmeuQc Report Abuse Just because Nascar will be using it, doesn't mean it is good for us. They change their engines and re-build them all the time.
dr047 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,592 Points:517,445 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:00:58 AM Ignore dr047 Report Abuse AH NASCAR .... 5 hours of left turn - left turn and guess what? . Another left turn! .. With drivers whining "The car is loose or the car is tight" followed by "an air pressure or track bar adjustment" It just don't get any better than that !!!
satrn38mpg Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,067 Points:1,053,040 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 4:58:16 AM Ignore satrn38mpg Report Abuse what will ultametly be the cost of this fuel ???
Cachase1 Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:11,450 Points:2,380,105 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 4:51:49 AM Ignore Cachase1 Report Abuse This is a sign of bad things to come.