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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2010 12:55:34 PM

NASCAR has announced its intention to use E15 in a wide spectrum of race vehicles starting in 2011 according to a press release. You'll remember that just three years ago, NASCAR still used leaded fuels, which had been banned from passenger vehicles for decades.

CEO of NASCAR, Brian France, was quoted as saying "American ethanol creates jobs in the United States, helps foster energy independence and continues the greening of our sport."

While NASCAR prepares to use E15 fuels, the IndyCar Series already had adopted use of 100% ethanol as its official fuel. NASCAR had been testing the use of E15 blended gasoline since early May. Teams have been testing the use throughout the season.

Why the switch? Well, with the...

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OHMS
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2010 4:21:28 PM

That's coming sooner than we thought; soon the series will end; and development of next year's powerplants will hit the track. Let's see how their mileage and reliability perform; they value both mileage and speed there.
OHMS
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2010 12:29:01 PM

I'd like to be perfectly FRANK; and you were Frank B$ me. I wonder what kind of tea that Indian young woman had before she stumped Pres. B O B4 the world's TV coverage. I can't spell Djarleeing(but then I have trouble understanding Eastern Asian customer service phone bank operators, too) I'm certainly not xenophobic; but I'd better get to work on my 4N languages FRANKly. :)
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2010 11:33:25 AM

>What about tea party cars? Who cares about cars that can only turn more and more to the LEFT?>
:)
honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2010 8:11:48 PM

how about drinking the EtOH and driving less?
OHMS
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2010 3:54:35 PM

What about tea party cars? Who cares about cars that can only turn more and more to the LEFT?
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 10:29:07 PM

LeftLane1, A good user name I might add.

>THis is TOO BIG of a move at once for them, the "haves" will HAVE an advantage over the Have-Nots AGAIN, NASCAR will continue in it's declining direction with many.

Ah, the class warfare begins.
honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 10:13:12 PM

it's no good either way. NASCAR has the $$$ to replace those cars, I don't.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 7:18:10 AM

I think this will cause issues at first, failures. Ethanol: Food is not fuel, Mileage is Lower with E10 & E15, engine wear is slightly more too.

THis is TOO BIG of a move at once for them, the "haves" will HAVE an advantage over the Have-Nots AGAIN, NASCAR will continue in it's declining direction with many.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2010 6:25:35 AM

great, now the Indy 500 will take 2 days
Blue48
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 10:39:14 PM

YEAH..IT COULD BE A DISASTER!
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 3:22:00 PM

NASCAR can use E15 in racecars in 2011, I could care less!
I do not want to use E15, E10, E5, E85, E100 in my vehicles or small engines.
OHMS
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 12:50:45 PM

I'm glad it was reposted; and hope it continues to be. Inquiring minds want to know more than just once.
Martinman
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 8:48:27 AM

REPOST !

NASCAR to use ethanol fuel mix (posted 18 Oct 10)
(first REPOST!)

NASCAR moving to ethanol fuel mix for 11 (posted 16 Oct5 10)
(original article)

[Edited by: Martinman at 10/19/2010 9:48:48 AM EST]
fillerupyeoww
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:53:36 AM

Why not?
MUSTANGSRUS
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:47:00 AM

I wonder how many more engines will splood - as D. W. says - next year. I am going to be watching next year with great anticipation.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:41:09 AM

Been a NASCAR "groupie" for 40+years. Still wonder why they don't just make 'em run on street pumped gas with 5 liter "motors"? It'll slow 'em down without all those other silly gadgets. Let 'em "run whatcha brung".
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:41:00 AM

I bet that there will be a lot more blown engines next season!
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:40:08 AM

The one thing Brian France didn't say was that American ethanol destroys engines. They ask "Why the switch?" The answer is that is has been shoved down their throats just like it has everyone elses throat by our Federal Government.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:38:17 AM

Easy for them to update any fuel system parts they need to, and it's not like they need anything to last 20 years, more like 20 weeks, or 20 days. Kind of hard for us to update a fuel system.
Spike294
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:38:13 AM

Let's go racing on ethanol boy's
KM6SX
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:38:10 AM

I can't wait till they are using electric cars for this... That'll be fun..
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:35:42 AM

Someone got paid big bucks for this one.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:34:59 AM

Agreed hubcapLA!
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:34:34 AM

Read this link "Do race cars use gasoline like normal cars do or do they use something else?" http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/fuel-consumption/question202.htm

"Do race cars use gasoline like normal cars do or do they use something else?
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"Do race cars use gasoline like normal cars do or do they use something else?" 01 April 2000.
It depends on the type of race car you are talking about. For example:

•NASCAR engines burn 110-octane leaded gasoline.
•Indy cars burn pure methanol (a.k.a. wood alcohol, CH3OH).
•Top Fuel dragsters and funny cars burn nitromethane (CH3NO2).
Each of these fuels has advantages and disadvantages. For example, the methanol fuel used in Indy cars has the advantage that it can run at extremely high compression ratios (meaning more power -- see How Car Engines Work for details). Methanol also has a nice safety feature -- you can extinguish a methanol fire with water. 110-octane gasoline also handles high compression well. Nitromethane is basically a liquid explosive and contains a great deal of energy per unit volume (more than twice that of gasoline). "
nb52
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:33:30 AM

Ah NASCAR, the next most politically correct group. They are so "yesterday".
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:32:07 AM

The last sentence of the article says,

"Bottom line? Good for NASCAR, but embracing the fuel at a retail pump is different."

Something to think about.

heardva
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:31:17 AM

okay
Diesel_Ram
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:30:53 AM

Several racing series run ethanol fuel. I still hate the stuff though!
mandoid
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:29:46 AM

"American ethanol creates jobs in the United States, helps foster energy independence and continues the greening of our sport." - ???

Ready Eddie
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:27:36 AM

They blow engines all the time anyway.
dar 1
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:26:48 AM

Nascar uses a LOT of gas, between the race cars and all the spectators that drive hundreds of miles to get there.Gas at 4.00 this summer will help slow down this excessive use of fuel
NJColt
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:26:44 AM

yeah, cause their cards will be tuned to run on it!
pw7793
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:25:58 AM

Nascar' vehicles should be able to be retuned to function on E15. Try doing that with your family car and see how much that is.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:25:11 AM

Let's see how many cars get ruined!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:24:10 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:20:13 AM

yea, let them ruin their cars
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:19:50 AM

Will see how this plays out.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:19:07 AM

stpetebp said: "Wait until they start blowing up one hundred thousand dollar race cars."

That'll be a fun show to watch. One hundred race cars exploding! But where can you buy a race car for $1000 these days? ;)
AvantiMick
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:14:59 AM

IF an engine is made for 15%, it'll be fine. Look at all the E-85 Flex-Fuel vehicles on the roads. But, most cars were designed for 10%.
gamalerin
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:12:17 AM

Bad news .
pitamon
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:07:24 AM

How will this affect their engines?
danny999
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:06:48 AM

DRIVERS GOING TO LOVE THIS.wILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MANY CARS LOSE BECAUSE OF THIS GARBAGE.NASCAR IS SELLING IT'S SOUL.
benjy
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:05:56 AM

the coming trend?
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:05:23 AM

So NASCAR Techs can rebuild cars of poor folks who bought new cars in 2007 that will not run on E15 without getting 15 MPG on HWY not 30 that I get now.

Police now have new robbers. Restaurants that have their fenced in barrels of grease from the fryers, now have trucks pullin up & sucking out their profits for selling it to companies who turn it into biofuel. A restarant in CLE captured the men, license number, name of company who hired them to steal oil from restaurants. So now all restaurants have this system & security installed also.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:04:15 AM

I wonder what kind of deal was cut and with who to get NASCAR behind something like this?
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:02:08 AM

Not good for us.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:01:11 AM

Just because Nascar will be using it, doesn't mean it is good for us. They change their engines and re-build them all the time.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 5:00:58 AM

AH NASCAR .... 5 hours of left turn - left turn and guess what? . Another left turn! .. With drivers whining "The car is loose or the car is tight" followed by "an air pressure or track bar adjustment"
It just don't get any better than that !!!
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 4:58:16 AM

what will ultametly be the cost of this fuel ???
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 4:51:49 AM

This is a sign of bad things to come.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2010 4:51:42 AM

Well, Ive watched my last nascar race! But I'm sure special interest groups will support them
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