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kitty58MI

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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2010 6:07:38 PM

I recently received an e-mail forwarded to me by my father (origin is unknown). It stated the following companies do not import Middle Eastern oil: Sunoco, Conoco, OASinclair, BP/Phillips, Hess, ARCO, Maverick, Flying J, Valero and Murphy Oil USA. Please comment on your thoughts, if this has also crossed your path. How could we verify this? Country of import origin would be reason enough for me to choose one gas station over another (other than for price). What say you?

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BobD2009
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2010 8:40:00 AM

I was told by my wife who owns oil stock that Conoco/Philips, BP, Sunoco, Chevon and possibly Gulf that they get most of their oil from Canada,USA and Mexico.
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car54BC
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2010 3:00:06 PM

What percent of the actual oil used in the u.s.a., produced in the u.s.a..I think there would not be enough to go around ( supply could not meet demand)
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2010 3:02:57 PM

I think linda003 mistyped, since she posted the same message in a thread she started.

I look forward to her next posting multiple gas prices, be their American or non-American gas prices.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2010 11:50:03 PM

Gas Buddy - I believe that Omaha was the only place that a Terror Free oil station was ever opened. They were very shady people.
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airduct
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2010 3:25:51 PM

Once the gas gets into the pipeline system there is no nationality....

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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2010 7:42:10 AM

Another thread had postings on the "Terror Free Oil" gas stations and how popular they were. I imagine that, in the case of the Omaha closing, when you limit what you're buying for resale, you're limiting what you can sell at an affordable price, in part because to be absolutely certain you're not selling imported fuel, it takes one heckuva effort to ensure the products exclusiveness.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2010 11:59:54 PM

Omaha had a Terror Free Oil gas station which was part of the Terror Free Oil Initative.

It just closed.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2010 10:37:26 AM

Actually I don't think anyone here was cynical.

kitty58MI: Welcome.

There has been a lot of posts to this website (in various categories, not just in Boycott/Gasout Talk), in newspaper discussion groups, blogs, other websites, etc that start off "I got this e-mail that told me...such and such; what do you think...should I take part...I'm with them boycotting XXX", etc.

You asked a question, people here responded. Not sure what you mean by "Interesting way to induct the newbies!" but wouldn't you rather have them answer your question than not? Or answer your question even with an answer you didn't like than they simply say "Yes", "No", or "I don't know"?

If you want to check out what companies import or don't import from certain places, you can start by checking some of the Department of Energy websites, the gas company websites, or take it upon yourself to contact the various companies directly (almost all have a website link to customer affairs, inquiries, etc.), and ask them directly. Almost all will give you the answer you're looking for. In fact, in many cases, because the question has come up so frequently, you might find the answer in their website's FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) link.

And you'll probably see that rumbleseat (for example) is correct. rumbleseat may be blunt but his answer was accurate.
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2010 4:45:14 AM

Hi Kitty, and welcome to the site. The email you mention is indeed spam, and should be discarded. Oil imports vary on a daily basis, and stations buy fuels from sources other than the brand on the sign. There is no way at all to determine the origin of the fuel you are buying, and even if you could tomorrow's fuel could be sourced from another part of the world.
If you are interested in the current import snapshot, here it is:
imports
Click on "company level imports" and you get a spreadsheet of the latest import information. Right now it shows October data, and lists Valero importing from Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Kuwait; BP from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait; Conoco from Iraq. But again, the story for November may be different.
At any rate, welcome to the site, and I hope you stick around. There are many helpful features - the mileage log, the price info, etc - to use as you try and lower your energy costs.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2010 9:01:15 PM

Pay no attention to the minor few that spend time here being bitter & cynical. As evidenced - they unfortunately have nothing better to do except to reach out for commiseration with such predicated responses.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2010 6:41:33 PM

Interesting way to introduce yourself "newbie".
Thought you asked a question and it was answered.
What say you?
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kitty58MI
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2010 3:45:10 PM

Interesting way to induct the newbies!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2010 2:14:42 AM

By the way, if you had checked Snopes, you would have found that SPAM e-mail is way out of date, and it was out of date when it surfaced 5 years ago.
Oil is a fungible commodity, nobody knows what is in the tank, starting from the moment it enters the system.
In 2007 ConocoPhillips imported 22,992,000 barrels of Middle East oil, yet they are on your list of 0 imports.
BP North America imported 34,099,000 barrels of Middle East oil, yet they are on your list of 0 imports.
Source - EIA
When you buy unbranded, retail-only chains, or store brand gasoline, it could be from oil sourced anywhere in the supply chain, Canada, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, USA, etc.
Believing the country could actually keep moving if people only bought from a few select companies is like believing it could keep eating if people only bought groceries from 7-Eleven and Safeway.

Gas Flout

Please do not propogate SPAM e-mail.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2010 2:00:06 AM

If nobody bought Middle Eastern oil, how would the country survive? Right now, there is no way for the USA to replace that large a part of the supply. This has been discussed before, many times.
Stop reading and propogating SPAM e-mail.
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BCERB
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2010 10:09:38 PM

Must be referring to the terror-free oil initiative.
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