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Ottani Rookie Author California Posts:5 Points:1,700 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Apr 21, 2009 3:16:07 PM Ignore Ottani Report Abuse As Arco charges .50 cents to use a debit card, and that equals .0333 cents per gallon on a 15 Gal purchase. How come everyone thinks they are less??

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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2009 3:16:07 PM

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As Arco charges .50 cents to use a debit card, and that equals .0333 cents per gallon on a 15 Gal purchase. How come everyone thinks they are less??

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BCERB Champion Author Victoria Posts:2,297 Points:425,015 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Oct 15, 2009 7:48:56 PM Ignore BCERB Report Abuse They slow the pumps down when a tanker truck is refilling the underground storage containers at the station. If one was to fill up at the same time- the water & sediment may still get mixed together & you may end up pumping some of the mixture into your gas tank. If this happened to someone - I could see where it would lead one to believe Arco has bad gas. Still - could just as easily happen at any station if the timing & conditions are right.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 6:18:12 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse Forgetting the issue is Arco prices, why is Arco bad gas? Hard to see how they could survive as a major company if their product was "bad".
rimpyCA Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,550 Points:792,000 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 5:15:56 AM Ignore rimpyCA Report Abuse arco bad gas
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2009 11:53:31 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse I'd like to believe he posted three different threads with nearly identical wording to clarify his position, but wouldn't it be easier to clarify your position by returning to the one thread you wrote and clarifying it there, instead of making three nearly identical threads and never returning to comment on what others are saying in response to your post? I'm not sure that he's saying that Arco is more expensive; I think he's saying - but what do I know - that the Arco price is about 3 cents higher per gallon (if you're buying 15 gallons) than the posted price because they charge you a debit card fee. However, if you don't use a debit card, the price is exactly what's posted, and in many cases Arco is lower priced than other branded gas; at worse, it's competitively priced. Not that I've used Arco in a while but I have yet to see Arco being higher than all others in shopping area.
BCERB Champion Author Victoria Posts:2,297 Points:425,015 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2009 10:07:07 AM Ignore BCERB Report Abuse Its not so far fetched to beleive that in some areas Arco sells lower & in other areas Arco is priced higher. Possibly Ottani posted 3 threads re: Arco to clarify his position. Arco is higher. People might not understand what is meant by higher better rephrase and say ARCO is more expensive. Best rephrase again & explain that debit fees is what makes Arco more expensive. Easier to just clarify this in the same thread but then the topics subject line which draws ones attention would be lacking.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2009 6:53:45 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse Actually when using a debit card at the PayQuick island terminal, there is a $0.45 processing convenience fee in addition to any fees your bank may charge. It's clearly posted on the Arco website and at all their stations. This is not applicable to cash, PumpPASS or Fleet Card (Business Solutions or Business Solutions GasPRO MasterCardPlus) transactions. Considering that the posted gas price for Arco is generally noticeably lower than the price of other stations, even with an additional three cent increase, they're still lower. However, you always have the option of not using a debit card; there are alternatives. Interesting that Ottani has made five message posts, including three topics that he started; all three he started are on Arco, saying the same thing.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2009 6:51:45 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse Actually when using a debit card at the PayQuick island terminal, there is a $0.45 processing convenience fee in addition to any fees your bank may charge. It's clearly posted on the Arco website and at all their stations. This is not applicable to cash, PumpPASS or Fleet Card (Business Solutions or Business Solutions GasPRO MasterCardPlus) transactions. Considering that the posted gas price for Arco is generally noticeably lower than the price of other stations, even with an additional three cent increase, they're still lower. However, you always have the option of not using a debit card; there are alternatives. Of course it doesn't seem like Ottani, who started this thread, is interested in the issue since he made the initial post. Interesting that of the five message posts he's made, he's started three of the topics, and all three threads he started are on Arco: Arco is higher Debit card fees at arco ARCO is more expensive
Daddybud Champion Author North Carolina Posts:6,301 Points:1,366,730 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Aug 29, 2009 2:01:25 PM Ignore Daddybud Report Abuse Never heard about it. [Edited by: Daddybud at 8/29/2009 3:01:43 PM EST]
BCERB Champion Author Victoria Posts:2,297 Points:425,015 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Aug 8, 2009 12:00:12 PM Ignore BCERB Report Abuse Pay with cash or credit not debit to save the fees. Also you are not paying less if its clogging your fuel lines. Switch to another brand.
E-Squirrel Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,015 Points:820,970 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 3:46:18 PM Ignore E-Squirrel Report Abuse Arco prices are lower. For proof, I offer the prices listed on this site: Prices posted to this site I have 187K miles on my Civic, nearly all of it Arco gasoline. Never have had any problems with anything cloggling...not sure what your issue is. [Edited by: E-Squirrel at 7/4/2009 4:55:54 PM EST]
wamster Champion Author Houston Posts:4,265 Points:696,035 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2009 8:53:27 AM Ignore wamster Report Abuse In California, their prices were less compared to others when I lived there. Their fuel is full of "junk" though and was clogging up fuel lines. Honda recommended not to use their fuel.
JoeTheGuyInRI Veteran Author Rhode Island Posts:413 Points:63,340 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2009 10:11:16 AM Ignore JoeTheGuyInRI Report Abuse Arco hasn't been around here for a long time.
PatAZ Champion Author Tucson Posts:9,251 Points:122,420 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jun 17, 2009 9:49:53 AM Ignore PatAZ Report Abuse I don't buy Arco but it is less for those who pay cash. At least it is around here. [Edited by: PatAZ at 6/17/2009 10:50:41 AM EST]
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jun 15, 2009 6:30:15 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse Interesting that Ottani, who created this thread, has a total of five message posts. He started three of them, all three similar, noting that Arco is higher. Wouldn't it be nice if people, especially new members, if they feel they have to start a thread as soon as they join, limited their new threads to only per topic, instead of multiple threads, diluting the participation?
airduct Champion Author Florida Posts:11,319 Points:293,020 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2009 9:04:31 PM Ignore airduct Report Abuse The ARCO PayQuick® terminal does not take consumer credit cards. ""Now at nearly 1,400 ARCO stations, you can purchase gas and obtain a receipt directly from the PayQuick island terminal. All it takes is a debit card,* cash or our PumpPASSass prepaid gasoline card, and in just seconds you'll be conveniently filling your car with quality, affordable gas. What could be easier? ARCO Business Solutions or ARCO Business SolutionsGasPRO MasterCardPlus Fleet cards are also accepted at all ARCO PayQuick terminals. To apply, go to ARCO Business Solutions Fuel Card.""
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2009 7:59:22 PM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse I fail to see where Arco has a problem. If you don't want to pay the "convenience fee" which they'd be paying back to the credit card/debit card companies, you have options. If you don't like the options, buy elsewhere. Where's the problem? Thanks airduct.
airduct Champion Author Florida Posts:11,319 Points:293,020 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2009 5:33:23 PM Ignore airduct Report Abuse ARCO PayQuick®
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2009 3:06:00 PM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse hcivic wrote: "glad I dont have Arco round here" Why? What's the difference if you had it there? You don't have to buy at the station, even if it was there, unless you wanted to. You're not forced to shop at Wal-Mart if there's an option anymore than you're forced to shop at K-Mart or Target or forced o shop at Domino's, Little Caesar's, or Pizza Hut unless you want to. If Arco has considerably lower prices for cash purchases, maybe it would be beneficial? After all, if Arco has to pay credit card companies 2.5 percent of the purchase price per gallon, that surcharge is their way of offsetting expenses, and passing the cost on to the customer who wants to pay by credit/debit versus pay by cash. It makes some sense to me.
bra0712 Champion Author Arizona Posts:3,670 Points:770,295 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2009 10:28:39 AM Ignore bra0712 Report Abuse that is one thing I don't like about arco. Cash only to get the cheap price
hcivic Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,859 Points:2,266,690 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jun 14, 2009 8:50:04 AM Ignore hcivic Report Abuse glad I dont have Arco round here
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,322 Points:2,144,925 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jun 12, 2009 6:11:20 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse You could use those green pieces of paper marked with Government symbology ("Annuit Coeptis. Novus Ordo Seclorum.") that typically have pictures of dead presidents on the front. You can get them at your friendly local bank.
E-Squirrel Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,015 Points:820,970 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Apr 21, 2009 4:22:40 PM Ignore E-Squirrel Report Abuse Ottani asks: "How come everyone thinks they are less??" Probably because we pay with cash, and get a lower price than you can elsewhere.